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LORCA> What did Tim listen to (bands/artists)?
FLYNPISCES> The Weavers, Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Odetta,
Judy Henske
FLYNPISCES> Bob Dylan,
LORCA> Beatles?
FLYNPISCES> Hmmm. Of course.
LORCA> Who was his favorite?
FLYNPISCES> That I can't say - I don't remember which one
stands out.
LORCA> not Beatle but performer/group
LORCA> o.k.
LORCA> Was Tim doing drugs when you knew him?
FLYNPISCES> No. A little pot, maybe, but nothing any stronger
while I was with him.
LORCA> Why did he quit h.s. football. Did he say?
FLYNPISCES> I don't think the coaches at Loara would give
him a chance and by then his knees and hands were wrecked.
FLYNPISCES> I think he'd rather use his hands for the guitar.
LORCA> What's Loara?
FLYNPISCES> Right.
FLYNPISCES> He didn't go to Buena Vista, by the way. I
think somewhere that name came up and stuck.
LORCA> Oh!
LORCA> Loara is a public high school?
FLYNPISCES> Yes.
LORCA> You were one year behind him right?
FLYNPISCES> Right.
LORCA> How exactly did you meet?
FLYNPISCES> In French class.
LORCA> So Scott Isler got that right
LORCA> Was he persistent?
FLYNPISCES> Persistent? In what way?
LORCA> In "courting" you?
FLYNPISCES> lol! I was this "goody-two-shoes"
walking around campus carrying my cello,
FLYNPISCES> dressed in a prim blouse & pleated skirt
- what he saw in me then, I didn't know.
FLYNPISCES> But he kept passing me notes in class until
I started answering them. lol!
LORCA> What did you find attractive in him?
FLYNPISCES> His rebellious nature and his poetry.
LORCA> How did his rebellious nature manifest itself?
FLYNPISCES> He was the most different guy on campus! Black
turtleneck shirt & houndstooth smoking jacket! lol! In
those
days, that was DIFFERENT!
FLYNPISCES> and that uncontrollable thatch of curly hair!
LORCA> Would you say he was affected?
FLYNPISCES> He was everything my parents didn't want to
see parked in the driveway, and I LOVED IT!
LORCA> So you have a rebellious side too?
FLYNPISCES> He was totally himself ALL THE TIME! A breath
of fresh air in my "do it right" life.
LORCA> Funny?
FLYNPISCES> Hilarious!!!
FLYNPISCES> He always made me laugh - we laughed together
alot.
LORCA> How so? Did he tell jokes? Do impressions? Act out?
FLYNPISCES> All of the above. He had a dry, Irish sense
of humor - full or irony & witticism.
FLYNPISCES> He could turn a phrase, so to speak.
LORCA> Articulate for his age?
FLYNPISCES> Very.
FLYNPISCES> He was very mature, too - a man among the boys,
in my eyes.
LORCA> Was he popular with the girls in general?
FLYNPISCES> No. He wasn't a ladies man.
LORCA> Did he have a shy side?
FLYNPISCES> Neither of us was "popular". He was
shy around "posuers".
LORCA> How long did you know each other before the relationship
got serious?
FLYNPISCES> Well, we "fell in love", so to us
it was serious right away.
FLYNPISCES> We dated for almost a year before we married.
LORCA> Exactly when, where & how did you get married?
FLYNPISCES> A quiet little ceremony at my family church's
chapel.
LORCA> So you didn't elope or anything?
FLYNPISCES> We'd run away from home and my parents' permission
to marry was the "ransome" we asked for.
LORCA> I see.
LORCA> How did Tim's folks feel about it?
FLYNPISCES> lol! They didn't like it at all! Neither set
of parents was happy about it, to say the least.
FLYNPISCES> We were WAY too young.
LORCA> Where did you run away to?
FLYNPISCES> La Jolla, then to Dan Gordon's house in Bell
Gardens...lol!
LORCA> Why La Jolla?
FLYNPISCES> We just got on the freeway, headed for the
Mexican Border, then realized we'd have to go through
LORCA> I see... Did Tim own a car?
FLYNPISCES> the road block at the border, so we stopped
in La Jolla and slept in the car.
FLYNPISCES> Tim owned a Triumph T3 convertible. SNAZZY!
LORCA> Really!? Sounds expensive...
FLYNPISCES> Not really, but it broke down a lot - we pushed
that sucker in the rain!
LORCA> Well worn huh?
FLYNPISCES> You could say that.
LORCA> Was Tim performing in public by this time (c. 1965)?
FLYNPISCES> Yes - every chance he got - at open mike nights,
we used to call them "hoot nights"
FLYNPISCES> at clubs in L.A. and Orange County.
LORCA> At the Troubadour, for example?
FLYNPISCES> Every Tuesday night.
LORCA> Which other clubs?
FLYNPISCES> Leadbelly's, Whisky, The Trip,
LORCA> What did you think of him as a performer?
FLYNPISCES> I can't remember the name of the one in the
City of Orange, that's where we met Jackson Browne.
FLYNPISCES> I thought Tim was the greatest singer/songwriter
in the world.
LORCA> How did Tim and JB get on?
FLYNPISCES> I don't know much about their relationship,
we were barely acquainted when I left the scene.
LORCA> I see. One more question about the marriage--do
you recall the exact date?
FLYNPISCES> Oct. 29, 1965.
FLYNPISCES>
I was trying to remember the precise date of my marriage to
Tim...I haven't checked records, lately.
LORCA> O.k. Where did you live after you got hitched?
FLYNPISCES> In a little apartment we paid $80/month including
utillities. lol!
LORCA> Where?
FLYNPISCES> In Anaheim.
LORCA> O.K. You were a senior in high school & Tim
had graduated?
FLYNPISCES> Yes, he was attending Fullerton Junior College
(now community college)
LORCA> Just for 2 weeks right?
FLYNPISCES> Well, if Tim said so, it's so...my recollection
is foggy.
FLYNPISCES> He dropped out around Christmas time - it was
probably only a couple of months.
LORCA> O.K. Here's a more sensitive question perhaps. How
did Tim react when you discovered you were prgnant?
FLYNPISCES> We were both scared. It wasn't planned,of course...and
he was just leaving town to tour NYC to break in his band.
FLYNPISCES> Putting a baby into the picture was a daunting
prospect.
LORCA> You don't have to answer this one but did you both
want the baby?
FLYNPISCES> You know...I don't think I can answer for Tim
on this...but I wanted him. That was enough for me.
LORCA> Yes.
FLYNPISCES> He was 18, I was 17...that pretty much answers
that.
FLYNPISCES> Just put yourself in his shoes.
LORCA> Tim went to NYC in the summer of '66. How were you
getting along at that point?
FLYNPISCES> I thought so...we weren't fighting or anything
- just drifting apart.
LORCA> Was he gone more often?
FLYNPISCES> I think we were just reaching the average life
span of a teenage relationship.
FLYNPISCES> Had we not gotten married when we did, it might
have ended just like all other "puppy love" situations
did in those days.
LORCA> Yes. Did he write or call frequently while he was
in NYC?
FLYNPISCES> No. I didn't hear from him, much. That was
my first clue that something was wrong.
LORCA> Did you save the letters he did write?
FLYNPISCES> No. I burned them in despair, just after Jeff
was born. I thought I'd hear from him, but I didn't.
FLYNPISCES> I was suffering from post partum blues, I think.
LORCA> Jim Fiedler claims that you put an ultimatum to
Tim.
FLYNPISCES> I don't know where he got that...
LORCA> Why would he say such a thing?
FLYNPISCES> I asked Tim, in a meeting we had on his return
from NYC, what he wanted me to do?
LORCA> What did he say?
FLYNPISCES> Tim said, "whatever you want". For
me that meant divorce. I knew Tim had a wonderful future ahead
of him, and I was his biggest fan. I would never have tried
to come between him and his career.
LORCA> You met at an L.A. coffee shop in Oct. '66?
FLYNPISCES> I knew our relationship was over, and just
surrendered to circumstances.
LORCA> I see. How was Tim about it? Guilty?
FLYNPISCES> I was 5.5 months along when we met - I'd have
to do the math to figure out what month it was.
FLYNPISCES> You know, I never got to talk to him about
what feelings he had. One can only assume
LORCA> Jeff was born on Nov. 17th?
FLYNPISCES> that he must have felt bad about not seeing
his son...but I won't put words in his mouth.
FLYNPISCES> Right 11/17.
LORCA> Did Tim attend the birth?
FLYNPISCES> No. Like I said - I'd hoped to hear from him...
FLYNPISCES> But I don't even know how he found out about
Jeff's birth at all.
LORCA> Did he contact you after that?
FLYNPISCES> We got together three or four times...
LORCA> What was that like?
FLYNPISCES> after I'd left home with my baby and set up
housekeeping in North Hollywood.
FLYNPISCES> We'd set up a meeting place and I'd bring little
Jeff.
FLYNPISCES> He'd hold him, we'd talk...nothing intimate,
just small talk.
FLYNPISCES> and then, he'd move and not leave a forwarding
address.
FLYNPISCES> So, we lost touch.
LORCA> Did he help with any child support money?
FLYNPISCES> I got word from a friend that he found it hard
to see us and I took the hint.
FLYNPISCES> Always took care of child support. We got a
check from his accountant every month.
LORCA> Was that in the divorce decree?
FLYNPISCES> Sure.
LORCA> When was the divorce finalized?
FLYNPISCES> When? Six months after I filed.
FLYNPISCES> When Jeff was an infant.
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